[Vk1tac] Ref all the changes
Paul F Bell
vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au
Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:57:58 +1000
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Hi Phil, and everyone else,
Thanks for the info regarding the APRS structure.
I've no idea what's happening regarding "Standard" packet, whatever standard packet is these days,1200, 4800 or 9600 baud. However, 144.800 MHz will not co-site with 145.175 MHz without more cans than a jam factory so that rules out Black Mountain Tower, even if our benefactor allows us to put yet another installation there. We did seek permission didn't we?
That only leaves Bulls Head or Black Hill if we are to use existing Divisional sites. Bulls Head is easy access but has some licencing issues to resolve whereas Black Hill will require some delicate negotiations. We may have a trump card to play in any negotiations for Black Hill in that I believe the packet people at Tid. are desirous of a packet installation on the Hill. It may be plausible to negotiate to co-site the LIPD spectrum 439.550 / 434.550 MHz repeater with the 144.800 MHz unit which would make for a nice arrangement. The only ongoing problem with Black Hill is site access for maintenance purposes. Bulls Head wins hands down here. My vote would be to get a licence for Bulls Head and stick everything there.
Any body else have any thoughts on the matter?
Regards,
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Longworth
To: vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vk1tac] Ref all the changes
Paul, (and others)
as far as I can make out, this is what will be happening APRS wise.....
Mt Ginini will become the WIDE (need VK1RGI Licence to have "145.1750000 MHz 16K0F2D" added
(and Remove.... 144.8000000 MHz - 16K0F2D, 439.5500000 MHz - 16K0F2D, 434.5500000 MHz - 16K0F2D ?)
Black Mountain will become a RELAY (no additions needed for Licence as APRS is already licensed)
I am not sure what is to happen with "Standard" packet, there is some talk of it going to Black Mountain, and some of it going to Bulls Head !
If going to Bulls Head then there are licensing issues (As we don't actually have a licence for Bulls Head, only for the "Portable" WICEN repeater !), and if at Black Mountain there are antenna combiner issues !
Can anyone tell me what we are doing with Packet so the licensing side can be commenced ?
cheers....
Phil.
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From: Paul Elliot
To: vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Vk1tac] Ref all the changes
When the new Wide goes into Ginnini, will VK1RBM stay as a wide or will
it be changed to a relay?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Westerhof" <vk1npw@netspace.net.au>
Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2003 8:53 pm
Subject: [Vk1tac] Ref all the changes
> G'day all, as far as I know VK1RBM APRS WIDE will stay in place
> and a new WIDE will be put on Mt Ginini. Just waiting for Xtals
> for the 815 that Paul (1BX) has and all is done.
>
>
> Peter
> VK1NPW
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Phil, and everyone else,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the info regarding the APRS
structure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've no idea what's happening regarding "Standard"
packet, whatever standard packet is these days,1200, 4800 or 9600 baud.
However, 144.800 MHz will not co-site with 145.175 MHz without more cans
than a jam factory so that rules out Black Mountain Tower, even if our
benefactor allows us to put yet another installation there. We did seek
permission didn't we?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That only leaves Bulls Head or Black Hill if we are
to use existing Divisional sites. Bulls Head is easy access but has some
licencing issues to resolve whereas Black Hill will require some delicate
negotiations. We may have a trump card to play in any negotiations for
Black Hill in that I believe the packet people at Tid. are desirous of a
packet installation on the Hill. It may be plausible to negotiate to co-site the
LIPD spectrum 439.550 / 434.550 MHz repeater with the 144.800 MHz unit
which would make for a nice arrangement. The only ongoing problem with Black
Hill is site access for maintenance purposes. Bulls Head wins hands down here.
My vote would be to get a licence for Bulls Head and stick everything
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any body else have any thoughts on the
matter?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=plongw@optusnet.com.au href="mailto:plongw@optusnet.com.au">Phil
Longworth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au
href="mailto:vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au">vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vk1tac] Ref all the
changes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Paul, (and others)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>as far as I can make out, this is what
will be happening APRS wise.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Mt Ginini will become the WIDE (need
VK1RGI Licence to have "<FONT face="Courier New" size=2><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>145.1750000 MHz 16K0F2D" added
</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>(and Remove....<FONT face="Courier New" size=2>
144.8000000 MHz - 16K0F2D, </FONT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>439.5500000 MHz - 16K0F2D,</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>
434.5500000 MHz - 16K0F2D ?)</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Black Mountain will become a RELAY (no
additions needed for Licence as APRS is already licensed)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I am not sure what is to happen with
"Standard" packet, there is some talk of it going to Black Mountain, and some
of it going to Bulls Head !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>If going to Bulls Head then there are
licensing issues (As we don't actually have a licence for Bulls Head, only for
the "Portable" WICEN repeater !), and if at Black Mountain there are antenna
combiner issues !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Can anyone tell me what we are doing with
Packet so the licensing side can be commenced ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>cheers....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Phil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=pkbelliot@telstra.com href="mailto:pkbelliot@telstra.com">Paul
Elliot</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au
href="mailto:vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au">vk1tac@happy.emu.id.au</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:12
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vk1tac] Ref all the
changes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>When the new Wide goes into Ginnini, will VK1RBM stay as a
wide or will <BR>it be changed to a relay? <BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Peter Westerhof" <<A
href="mailto:vk1npw@netspace.net.au">vk1npw@netspace.net.au</A>><BR>Date:
Tuesday, June 3, 2003 8:53 pm<BR>Subject: [Vk1tac] Ref all the
changes<BR><BR>> G'day all, as far as I know VK1RBM APRS WIDE will stay
in place <BR>> and a new WIDE will be put on Mt Ginini. Just waiting for
Xtals <BR>> for the 815 that Paul (1BX) has and all is done.<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Peter<BR>> VK1NPW<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ---<BR>>
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